The Players In The Game

The Big Three---Addresses---Law And Politics---Check Verifiers---Scoring Firms---Debt Counselors

Credit Reporting Agencies

  • Equifax 1-800-685-1111* (Voice Mail Hell-If you pay them $$$ you can view your report online immediately. But if you want the free report required under the FCRA (due to a credit decline) they give you the run around by demanding a written request.) Equifax knows the public is learning how useless credit reports actually are and are compensating by finding new ways to invade your privacy on the internet and through your bank. The best overall picture of Equifax was contained in the classic 1995 Wired Magazine article Equifax in Depth. Two years after the article was written regulators looked the other way while Equifax joined forces with VNU, the Netherlands conglomerate that also owns the Nielsen Ratings. (Could you have a home loan declined because you were caught watching Gilligan's Island instead of PBS? It could happen.) If you want to order a report online, hold your nose and click here.
     
  • Experian 1-888-397-3742* (Voice Mail Hell).

    What used to be called TRW (The Reports Wrong) was swallowed by the British conglomerate Great Universal Stores PLC. One of the first actions our British masters took was to revoke TRWs free annual credit report. Experian is aggressively collecting information about you from your internet and debit card usage. If you want to order a report online, pull on your hip boots and click here.
     

  • TransUnion 1-800-888-4213*

    TransUnion has recently made real efforts to be friendlier to it's Victims. They were the first to disclose credit scores to consumers and made life alot easier for all of us. And while the other bureaus strive to delay complying with the Fair Credit Reporting Act as long as possible, TransUnion offers convenient phone ordering if you have been denied credit. . TransUnion has had their problems with lawsuits. This privately owned firm used to concentrate on the east coast, but is now showing up nationwide. If you want to order a report online, just go to the link above.

    If you want to write, read the rest of this page then click here for PIRGS list of street addresses. Ignore the bad advice about reporting fraud to credit bureaus.

    *PLEASE read the last paragraph before dealing with any credit bureau or bill collector. All 800 or 888 calls report private data  to the receiving party regardless of "caller ID" blocking.

    Bank Blacklists

  • ChexSystems
    Chexsystems is proof paranoid schizophrenia is not limited to living subjects. Terribly confused about what they are and suspicious about every person with a checking account, this Dallas collection agency/credit bureau/judicial system has to approve before you can open a checking account virtually anywhere in the US. The good news is Chexsystems has the best website in the industry to get your report when you have suffered from their gossip. The bad news is they won't even give you their real phone number until you waste a few weeks ordering a report by mail if you haven't already been damaged. Call 1-800-428-9623* if you don't belieieve it. Owned by Deluxe Check Printers (your Chexsystem file includes a record of every check you have ordered), they are first and foremost a collection agency with all that that implies. You must agree to let them use your private information any way they want or they simply refuse to honor your rights under the Fair Credit Reporting Act. Don't let Chexsystems tell you they don't make decisions---we surveyed 50 member banks and not one even had a procedure to override a Chexsystem veto.

    Victims Resources include Chexvictims and Getting around ChexSystems

  • TeleCheck
    Similiar to Chexsystems, "TeleCheeky" specializes in humiliating victims at the checkout stand by putting their names on an automated blacklist. In essence merchants participating in the Telecheck cartel have agreed to override their Victims rights to a trial on charges against them. Yet another collection agency masquerading as a protector of the public good, Telechek uses every check you write to compile sales data which they sell to the news media. You can talk to a real live person at 1-800-733-3400*

    Miscellaneous Privacy Invaders

  • Medical Information Bureau

    People can go on with their happy little lives because they just don't know. - Tommy Lee Jones in Men In Black.

    If you want to catch errors on your medical records don't bother asking MIB. They claim they don't have your medical records -- only "codes" with your name attached. Until recently they actually bragged about taking time to delete errors from YOUR report so you couldn't see what erroneous info they sell to insurance companies! MIB does have a very useful web site with interesting insights into the insurance industries alien point of view.

    December 2000 update Clinton mandates jail time for medical records misuse Outgoing President Clinton created sweeping new rules prohibiting credit bureaus and others from using your medical information for non-medical uses. Privacy advocates are waiting to see how President-elect Bush will handle this long overdue reform.

  • NCTDE Did you vote to give Equifax your telephone records? No Common Thread of Decency Exists was called the "National Consumer Telecommunications Data Exchange", but now prefers to be called simply "Exchange". This dangerous Equifax ran database received special permission from Clinton era regulators to act as a "non-profit" (A private sector blacklist for the public good! What WERE they thinking...). NCTDE is also exempt from most anti-trust laws thanks to a similiar attitude by the US Justice Department. We would be very interested in hearing from anyone who has tried to get their report from these secretive folks.

    Credit Counseling Firms

    There is no shame in asking for help getting out of debt, but make sure you don't do more harm than good. In 2004 we are hearing many stories of problems with this industry. We do not endorse any particular one, but a couple of the better known counseling firms that we know of are:

  • MyVesta.Org Getting alot of attention. Formerly Debt Counselors of America.

  • American Consumer Credit Counseling

    Be aware that most "credit counselors" are financed by financial institutions who do not believe in the constitutional process of bankruptcy. Also be aware that you and your spouse may have a hidden code 7 (sought debt counseling) alert placed in your report just by inquiring, but if you are in over your head it is worth considering.

    Credit Scoring Firms

    Don't miss our scoring page or the book The Fortune Sellers : The Big Business of Selling and Buying Predictions.

  • Fair Isaac One of several independant firms who swear their software will be on God's laptop at judgement day. The first and biggest scoring firm, they also notice whenever you write a check or use a debit card. FICO scores are their best known product. These folks worked to hide your important credit score for years, but that changed in 2002 due to TransUnion.

  • All three of the big bureaus sell decision making services and yet all three tell you and Congress they just supply data and don't make decisions. Their mothers must be so proud of their honesty.

    Law Enforcement

  • US Federal Trade Commission Click to see the tail wagging the watch dog.

  • US Office of Comptroller of the Currency One agency that tries to keep an eye on the credit scoring process

  • Ontario Canada Privacy Office

    Assume that anything you tell credit bureaus, bill collectors or counseling services (to a lesser degree) will end up in the hands of your worst enemy. When dealing with credit bureaus and collectors never give a drivers license number and avoid giving other unnecessary details like your employer, telephone numbers, or previous addresses. They can and do use such details to hurt you and it is illegal to use credit inquiries as "fishing expeditions" to build up files. This is the main reason they won't handle disputes by email. They found the report that was used to reject you with only a name, birthday and social security number, so they can find it for you with the same information. If you want to see the same credit report your lender saw, give the agency no more info than you gave the lender. New laws require a free report if you are unemployed or on welfare, but we don't recommend using this option. Bureaus will add your name to other lists you know nothing about that lumps you in with street alcoholics and disgraced politicians.

    Anything you tell a credit bureau will likely end up in all of their databases (not just credit reports) and sold to bill collectors, marketers, employers, insurance companies, martian invaders, competitors, etc. Remember, to them you are not a customer. You are nothing more than an object in an inventory. Think of a credit bureau as sort of a grocery store tabloid who wants to interview you. It is dirt their customers want and scandal is their real stock in trade.

    Do not rely on the Fair Credit Reporting Act to protect you, even with the recent industry sanctioned "improvements". It really is quite worthless for anything other than getting a copy of your report, and bureaus routinely just ignore it altogether. When you apply for a job paying over $75,000, try to finance a home over $150,000, or get "checked out" by law enforcement, all the items you thought were deleted can, and often do, legally return forever, and without warning. Any item deleted for no response can reappear (with notice) any time within 7 years (10 years for a bankruptcy), and there are numerous ways that deleted items still affect you, your relatives, and your neighbors credit score. On the positive side most bureaus just use 7 years from the date of first delinquency (no longer the date of last activity as required by 1997 changes to the FCRA).

     All deleted items can still be reported if the request is related to business rather than consumer services (although none of the big three appear to use this option). Remember that the FCRA only covers a very narrow scope of information and scoring systems use many sources that are not revealed or covered. Few of the so called "credit experts" realize that in reality, nothing just goes away. It isn't right, but that is the way the money folks want it so BE CAREFUL.
     
     

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